142. The Who, The Kinks, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols and Muddy Waters I don't where to post this ever since that "Current Hall of Famers" doesn't have a comments, so I have to post it here or in the "The Immortals" page. The Flamingos Eagles The Miracles should be at Level 4. The Allman Brothers Band 163. HOW are THEY at Level 5, while the group that INFLUENCED them are just at LEVEL 3 ?? 1994 115. REM and Tom Petty do, and they are two more acts Radiohead should not be ranked higher than. Bon Jovi would, naturally, be closer to the bottom, Posted by Tyler Partnow on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 20:19pm. That's who he is. "Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited). 91. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:04pm. James Taylor It's taking a lot longer than I thought to compile the list, so stay tuned. Was it based on their brilliant songs? Chuck Berry: 10/10 "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position 69. Albert King (lower 3rd) 43. Posted by Mike on Thursday, 05/28/2020 @ 12:15pm, Posted by Frank on Friday, 04/9/2021 @ 04:03am, Cleveland.com put out a ranking of the Performer R&R HoF inductees, "from the best to Bon Jovi" based on, presumably, influence, artistic integrity, I imagine whether they were inducted during a full moon, and of course whether the author(s) liked them. Posted by John R.C. U2 Del Shannon: 5/10 "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. -Most influential? You want to know about influence? Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 MVP Offline Posts: 9456. The Clash U2 Smokey Robinson (and the Miracles) Bon Jovi: 4/10 74 Paul McCartney I'm not a RAWKist, but if I obey the asterisk, I'd probably say Percy Sledge. Joan Baez: 6/10 Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. "You're So Fine and Sweet" - The Undertakers. "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. Tina Turner is solely on Level 2 for star power and that's it. Miles Davis: 9/10 ha-ha. I'd say level 4 is also impossible for anyone not in the hall currently as well. Do you have to consider them in any "best of all-time" discussions? Press J to jump to the feed. Public Enemy: 10/10 Muddy Waters (Level 5) I would say Aretha, Bowie, or Springsteen could be moved up to the top rung, Posted by Mike on Monday, 09/16/2019 @ 15:05pm. 149. Dion, Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 00:11am. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:30pm. 12. I can forgive MJ being ranked above the King (though I disagree), but Madge over the Fab Four? As happy as I am with this year's ballot, I don't think any of these artists could place above a level 2. It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. Tier 4 is their place. Hank Ballard & The Midnighters: 8/10 4. 79. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Leonard Cohen Sorry i number the questions wrong so I come up with a new question for # 5: KISS (Level 2) Shaq, 12. 96. (It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) If not them, then Hendrix, probably. 1/10 = Not even worth of mention Copyright 2006-2023 futurerocklegends.com, Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already, http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees, http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, https://www.ranker.com/list/rolling-stone-100-greatest-artists-of-all-time/music-lover, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html. "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. Dylan, Buddy Holly, Led Zep, Hendrix Posted by Follower on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 21:17pm. 95. John Mellencamp: 7/10 22. Pat Benatar (Level 1) 1. 2016 Posted by Tommy Wimmer on Monday, 09.24.18 @ 01:42am Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 04:11am. Not really. I think all of the others were placed appropriately. I blame the clowns on the committee for it - but Deep Purple should be on this list AND at level 3. Were Shaq and Kobe always destined to turn on each other? Should have been first ballot: Genesis, Black Sabbath, Queen. Gene Pitney DEFINITELY !! Over the past two-three years, I've become heavily enamored with blues, jazz, bluegrass, country/western, and even old Tin Pan Alley/classic standards. The Beach Boys: 10/10 Loudest other then metal: THe Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Dave Clark Five. Def Leppard Cream's rhythm section couldn't stand each other. Posted by Navonte Robertson on Monday, 07/26/2021 @ 09:57am. Yes "(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's Whatever his legacy, he'll be remembered for taking that road. 136. "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett . Part of the best shooting backcourt of all-time and a key part in the Warriors dynasty. Duane Eddy I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. The Little Mermaid 1)Led Zeppelin-demote to the 4th tier. 50. 31. 222. Manu was damn good and didn't get the traditional accolades to back it up. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . 2018 Dallas now has a costar alongside Luka Doncic but has precious little time to make it all work, Plus, Jonny Lazarus talks Patrick Kane joining the Rangers, Tyson and Riley are joined by Reiman (Spencer) Bledsoe to compare first-timers and reoccurring competitors, as well as the different types of advantages this season, Plus, the guys later close the show with Americas favorite segment: Two Jargons, One Lie, Justin, Rob, and Wos talk the Lakers, the Pelicans, Nikola Jokic, and more, There is also discussion of Alabamas Brandon Miller and his connection to the case of a fatal shooting, By submitting your email, you agree to our. 2001 Joan Baez (and yes, I'd still put her in the bottom rung, though she'd be closer to the top of that bottom rung) Beat induction year: 1993, Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:22pm. 10.. Just asking for clarification. Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. Their experimentation? I didn't ask for it. KISS If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. Metallica also, but stance is just that -stance. Percy Sledge: Influenced Al Green and the Allman Brothers Band. #1 NBA community for blogging, voting in polls, taking quizzes, and public chats. 166. Bon Jovi (while not a critical favorite, the band is still selling well into the new 10's) Jay - Z: 10/10 Buffalo Springfield: 6/10 Prince: 10/10 102. it might just represent the next phase of sports commentary."The Atlantic Bill Simmons, the wildly He without question was 'the most political of the Beatles' and I'm sure a lot of future generations looked upon him for that. nine inch nails - 2 or 3 59. Naming your daughter after a country and picking a fan's nose are the actions of a classic whackjob. Bill breaks it down with his former ESPN colleague J.A. Isiah Thomas, 25. Best hip hop: I don't much care for it, but even I would concede Public Enemy's suitability. Bob Dylan, Ray Charles, Jimi Hendrix, Little Richard, James Brown, Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson Like everyone else, there's a few changes I would make. Darlene Love 54. "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. Their overwhelming commercial success then? Ray Charles didn't make his name in Rock and Roll. Sabbath, Queen, Aerosmith, Beastie Boys, Alice Cooper, Pink Floyd The Notorious B.I.G.-Level 3 CCR: 9/10 Level 3 Deep Purple (Level 2) Big Joe Turner: 9/10 Otis Redding: 10/10 8/10 = No Brainers The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 I could have sworn it was the other way around. Lastly, I would move Big Joe Turner to the top of the first level or the bottom of the second level. 6. 6/10 = Decent Artists Scott Slade Cox Media Group. A half-century ago, Pink Floyd unleashed a classic that still lingers on the Billboard charts and in college dorms to this day. 84. 9. 201. 10. 13. Chaka Khan 8. 224. Bob Pettit. Los Lobos - See more at: http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 12:43pm. E.T. Chicago: 6/10 Not one bad inductee among either class. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:13pm, ** THE MIRACLESand why they SHOULD be Level 4:** Hall and Oates [1] They also have the distinction of having more songs inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame than any other Motown group." Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. Adande. Public Enemy (lower 2nd) the notorious big - 2 There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. James Harden is no slouch. I still listen to modern rock/indie radio at times, but for the most part, I start losing sustained interest around 1998 or '9. Torae, and others. Pink Floyd 113. NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. Duran Duran: 8/10 Jackson Browne: 7/10 The Small Faces/Faces, The Hollies, and The Ventures *******THE TOP 100 ARTISTS OF ALL TIME:******* 5. The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder (who was actually even DISCOVERED by one of The Miraclesthe late Ronnie White) and THE WHOSo. Randy Newman (middle 2nd) I'll concede they're important enough to be in the hall, but ranking them higher than the Doors, Grateful Dead, Zappa, or even Jefferson Airplane (a possible influence) is ridiculous. Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. 5. Bob Marley: 10/10 Also available in . "Darling Dear" The Jackson Five. 4. 25. AC/DC They should be upgraded too. Well, nice as that was, the moment is passed, and the Ramones are virtually irrelevant to the contemporary musical landscape. Bruce Springsteen: 10/10 9. Thank you. But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4. Plus, The Miracles' historical importance as Motown's first group seals the deal !! 2Pac is probably Level 2. The Hollies 51. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? 8/10 = No Brainers The Animals: 8/10 "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques LEVEL 3 ?? 88. Most weridest inductee: Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Sly Stone, Prince, and Michael Jackson. Al Ciraldo Voice of Georgia Tech Athletics. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. Future Hall of Famer Steve Kerr joins Bill to discuss a quarter-century of learning The Secret in Chicago (with Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson), San Antonio (with Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich), and Phoenix (with Steve Nash), and then how Kerr watched it unfold during his historic run as the coach of the three-time champion Golden State Warriors. 10. Beck (Level 1 or 2) I can't say that I feel the same about Costello being even with The Talking Heads. IMO obviously. 11. Johnny Cash, REM, Led Zeppelin, Sly & the Family Stone, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, Bruse Springsteen. 4/10 = Marginal The Bee Gees 56. 189. I meant *borderline. Marvin Gaye (Level 5) 132. You like what you like. The Cars 1987 Hank Williams Moody Blues - 2 The Dells "Point It Out"' The Supremes and The Temptations. 1993 Steely Dan: 8/10 The Doobie Brothers But I hope that someday Plastic People of the Universe will get in. Dick Clark would be a good call here too. 2/10 = Failure Jimmy Cliff Whats legacy, anyway? Rush I don't have a problem with ranking KD over those guys. "5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. Simon & Garfunkel: 10/10 "Bill G., Cheap Trick 4. Probably Patti Smith, though any of the acts that had one legendary hit (7 that's all) could also be placed here. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. Proper evaluation of influence can certainly be biased by opinion; but overall it is rather easy to research to see historically the impact an artist had by tracking musicians that copied them, or directly cite them as major influences. I'd buy front row seats for a weird off between Prince and Dr. John. -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. I still have no idea how Dirk managed to get that group to the Finals and then win the whole thing. Then he takes it further by completely reevaluating not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine Read our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy to get more information and learn how to set up your preferences. Fats Domino should be moved up four rows. Four All-NBA appearances, six All-Stars, 2nd best or 3rd best player on 4 champs and a runner-up. Sex Pistols: 9/10 "Bad Girl" Dazz Band, Mary Wells, Jackie Jackson. Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 05/11/2013 @ 22:12pm, Rolling Stones below zeppelin and the beach Boys? Posted by John R.C. Dire Straits (borerline 1/2) T. Rex (Level 2) Tom Chambers, 109. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 2006 They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. 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